I completely missed this comment from Bryant Wright

Faith in America asks for apology from Southern Baptist head

Posted on May 3, 2012 by admin

SBC president compares gay affirming Americans to Nazis

Faith in America is calling upon Bryant Wright, president of the Southern Baptist Convention, to apologize for incendiary speech that compared affirmation of gay and lesbian people to Nazi propaganda during World War II.

“It is really inconceivable that a person of such prominence within one of America’s largest Christian denominations could utter such a comparison,” said Brent Childers, executive director of Faith in America. “It is beyond shameful and it makes a mockery of the faith he professes.”

In a Sunday, Feb. 5, 2012 sermon entitled “When Homosexual Behavior is a Big Issue”, Wright stated that anyone who believes same-sex sexual orientation is God-given or that sexual orientation can’t be changed is believing a “lie of the devil” that has been repeated so much that now a majority of the public believes it – saying that was a lesson learned from Nazi Germany.

In his sermon, Wright said it makes him “really shudder” at the thought of faith leaders who affirm the dignity of gay and lesbian people, saying they are teaching “what God says is evil is really good.” In addition, he makes the following statements:

“When man all of a sudden decides what God says is sin or evil is really good, that is blasphemous behavior. That is calling God a liar.”

via Faith in America asks for apology from Southern Baptist head | Faith in America.

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Dr. Robert Spitzer Speaks at Length About the Hatred of Groups Pushing Ex-Gay Myths: VIDEO| News | Towleroad

DR. ROBERT SPITZER SPEAKS AT LENGTH ABOUT THE HATRED OF GROUPS PUSHING EX-GAY MYTHS: VIDEO Dr. Robert Spitzer, a psychiatrist who published a controversial 2001 study suggesting that in rare instances gay people could change their sexual orientation, retracted those claims in an American Prospect article published in April and issued an apology to the gay community.”Ex-gay” watchdog group Truth Wins out followed up with Spitzer in an interview at his home in Princeton, New Jersey, in which he talks about the hatred of those pushing the “ex-gay” myth and apologizes again.Watch, AFTER THE JUMP… POSTED MAY. 30,2012 AT 1:56 PM EST BY ANDY TOWLE IN “EX-GAYS”, NEWS, ROBERT SPITZER | PERMALINK

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Disputatious Christians and Selective Outrage Make Me Wanna Go All R.E.M.

The selective outrage that I’m witnessing from the Christian community is making me want to go all “REM” today — as in lose my religion.  Not only does the mean bickering look ridiculous, it IS ridiculous.  I’m so weary of the fighting about EVERY.   little.   issue.

Andy Stanley used the word disputatious to describe Christians.  Perfect.  He also had a good definition in the sermon before “THE” sermon.  He said Christians had become defined to be “judgmental, homophobic moralists who think they are the only ones going to heaven”. No arguments from this soultwisted ragamuffin.

What makes me absolutely CRAZY is the way that very public Christian figures, especially my former Baptist brethren, seem to live in an alternate reality when it comes to the words that flow out of the mouths of pastors.  Backasswards much?  I have a unique perspective on this since I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church (SBC), went to a SBC seminary, worked for a SBC church and planted church with support from the SBC.  Let’s just say I know how the SBC does business, and it is a bit more GCB than any of them would like to admit.  It is interesting that GCB is the initials to the alternative name/tagline that Baptists recently adopted.  I’m just sayin…

I blogged last week about Pastor Sean Harris and his rant telling the congregation of Berea Baptist Church to “crack” the limp wrists of effeminate boys and “punch” them. He claimed in his “non-apology” and his “retraction…kinda” that he was speaking in hyperbole and his congregation knew what he meant.  THAT is precisely what scares me, because I think they did know exactly what he meant.  It was language that was very personal to my experience and I waited for some prominent voices to come to the rescue.  They never did.  Actually, the Christian Post came to Sean Harris’ DEFENSE in their painfully mis-titled article “LGBT Groups Attack NC Pastor Before Gay Marriage Vote”.

I also blogged about my experience at Buckhead Church and being blown away at Andy Stanley’s message.  His message sent a pretty clear message that he and Northpoint church were willing to live in the messy tension that surrounds homosexuality — that gay and Christian were not two mutually exclusive terms.  True to form, the evangelical community caught wind of his message and have circled like wolves.  Dr. Al Mohler seems to have started the whole thing with his blog post on mega-churches and liberalism.  Rick Warren jumped in the fray by saying Dr. Mohler should apologize for accusing all mega-churches of being liberal because one pastor “messed up”.

Excuse me Pastor Warren, could you please explain how Andy Stanley “messed up?”  Was it his kindness to LGBT people?  Was it the fact that he didn’t use the opportunity to reinforce the old evangelical standard of “hating the sin, hating loving the sinner?  Was it that he painted a picture of a messy and radical grace?

And what I really don’t get is how pastors like Rick Warren and leaders like Dr. Mohler can pounce on Andy Stanley like he is a piece of fresh red meat whilst IGNORING the crazy-speak coming from the mouths of Pastor Sean Harris and his ilk.  Listen to both messages.  From Andy you get a calm, rational and loving presentation.  You may not agree with everything, but there is no doubt that his words came from a place of love.  From Sean Harris you get a hate-filled rant about abusing gay-acting kids in the hopes of correcting them into the straight life.  And in his latest “clarification” with CNN, it is even more obvious that Pastor Harris meant every word he said.  I feel sorry for the kids in that church and fear for any kid that might be gay and sitting in the pews.  Just imagine what the “subtle” messages are in a church that has moments as blatant as the one the world witnessed at Berea?

It is weeks like this that make me ashamed to have been associated with Baptists and evangelicals.  I’ll only bang my head up against an immovable object for so long.  I’m stubborn, but not a complete idiot.  I think I have learned that you can’t teach an old, mean and rabid dog new tricks.  Especially the ones that have been raised to attack, bite and devour their young.

I only take solace in the fact that though they claim Christ, they DO NOT own Christ.  So for now, in the words of Michael Stipe, “that’s me in the corner, that’s me in the spotlight… losing my religion.”  And that makes me sad.

Great Post from Scot McKnight – Andy Stanley, Right and Good

I have so much to do today.  I can’t take a ton of time out to watch as the furor over Andy Stanley continues to grow.  However, I did browse a bit and was pleasantly surprised to come across one of God’s gentle prophets.  Scot McKnight always has  thoughtful posts, and this one ranks up there.  Enjoy.

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Andy Stanley, Right and Good

May 7, 2012 By scotmcknight 45 Comments

There was a dustup late last week stirred up by Al Mohler, who accused Andy Stanley for soft-pedaling when it came to homosexuality, and then Mohler ramped up the rhetoric by wondering if megachurches were the new liberalism. Denny Burk chirped up some support for Mohler. Then Rick Warren got into the act and told Mohler he was libeling thousands of megachurch pastors in his comment about liberalism.

continue reading… Andy Stanley, Right and Good.

The Christian Post attempts to defend Pastor Sean Harris…

Just look at the title of this article…

“LGBT Groups Attack NC Pastor Before Gay Marriage Vote”

I’ve been over the the Christian Post several times because of Amendment One.  I must say that I was really disappointed with what I saw, especially on the message boards.  This title just makes it worse.

I’m just not sure how a Christian publication can defend someone that says these things and then tries to paint those that point it out as extreme.  Just go back and listen to the sermon.  It speaks for itself.  Here is an excerpt from the article…

However, gay advocacy groups are still attempting to paint the influential pastor as a hateful person ahead of the imminent vote to decide the terms of traditional marriage in North Carolina.

There is no “painting” that needs to be done.  He clearly articulates his position and then reinforces it with the pseudo apology and retraction.

via LGBT Groups Attack NC Pastor Before Gay Marriage Vote.

Pam’s House Blend – More Support For Defeating Amendment One

This is good news!  Go to Pam’s website (link below) to read the rest of the story!

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More support against Amendment One: Chelsea Clinton, George Takei, Jason Mraz

By: Pam Spaulding Friday May 4, 2012 9:47 am

There’s a lot of support from all corners against Amendment One to report – the latest well-known names:

Chelsea Clinton, daughter of former President Bill Clinton, urges people to sign up for get-out-the-vote efforts to defeat it:

I believe that everyone must stand up for what is right, whenever possible, wherever possible.  I also believe that when the civil rights of any one American or group of Americans in one place are questioned, all Americans, everywhere, should care that the answer is the right one.  Those are lessons I learned at a young age from my parents and they are guiding principles in my life.

That is why I am joining you in opposing Amendment One in North Carolina. Amendment One unfairly targets women, children and families, gay and straight, who fall outside of the narrow definition of family articulated by those who drafted the legislation.

It is our duty to join the fight on behalf of both the gay and lesbian North Carolinians who were the original targets of the amendment and the tens of thousands of straight male and female North Carolinians who will be collateral damage if the amendment passes next Tuesday.

via Pam’s House Blend.